[Rednroll]

Originally Posted by J-H!zZl3

I'm curious to see how this changes throughout the season.

I'm hoping he increases those numbers across the board. I drafted Kobe with the 6th pick in the 2K Fantasy league.

[SinLes12]

Originally Posted by Rene

A player that grabs 4 rebounds in 28 minutes is a better rebounder than a player who grabs 5 in 36 minutes.

Simple logic, it's not like those other Hollinger stats .

a player that plays 36 minutes has more responsibilities than a player that plays 28 minutes... that logic is pretty simple too. He led the league at the 2gaurd position in rebounds per game now thats the plain truth.

[El -CaPiTaN809]

Originally Posted by SinLes12

a player that plays 36 minutes has more responsibilities than a player that plays 28 minutes... that logic is pretty simple too. He led the league at the 2gaurd position in rebounds per game now thats the plain truth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd98J...eature=related

[J-H!zZl3]

Kobe vs. A.I. - All-Time Scoring Battle

In 1996, the Philadelphia 76ers selected Allen Iverson, a sophomore at Georgetown, with the No. 1 overall pick in the NBA Draft. Twelve picks later, the Charlotte Hornets selected Kobe Bryant on behalf of Jerry West and the Lakers.

As NBA Commissioner David Stern read those two names, two of the league's greatest scorers - ever - were about to begin splashing nets.

Thirteen years later, both Iverson and Bryant continue their assault up the NBA's all-time scoring list, with only 14 players in the history of the league having racked up more buckets.

Bryant will lead his defending champion Lakers against Iverson and his new team, the Memphis Grizzlies, on Friday night at STAPLES Center, but not before we take a closer look at these two pantheon scorers:

Iverson Opens Assault Early
As a rookie, A.I. began his onslaught immediately, averaging 23.5 points per game while channeling a lightning bolt on the hardwood. He tapered off just a bit in year two at 22.0 per evening, but then scored at least 26 points a game until the 2006-07 season, going for 31.2 per game in Philly before being traded to Denver (where he averaged 24.8 points). He rebounded to average 26.4 points for Denver in 2007-08, but dipped all the way to 17.4 points a game in Detroit in 2008-09 as his minutes and effectiveness declined. Still, A.I. had put up five seasons of 30-plus points, led by his 33.0 output in 2005-06. Not too shabby.

Bryant Builds Steadily
Just 17 when he signed with a team that would revolve around Shaquille O'Neal in the post, Bryant's bucket-making career opened with much less scoring gusto than Iverson, as he posted 7.6 points per game as a rookie playing 15.5 minutes per night before doubling his output to 15.4 points in 26 minutes the next season. Then in 1998-99, Bryant began playing big minutes (37), hitting the 22.5 per game mark that season and never dipping below 24 over his next 11 seasons, including three seasons of at least 30 points a night highlighted by his 35.4 per night burst in 2005-06.

Just 26 To Tie
Iverson's early-career advantage over Bryant eroded steadily last season, as "The Answer" struggled to score 995 points just as Bryant played all 82 games and posted 2,201 points. Furthermore, a red-hot scoring start to the 2009-10 season for Kobe - he has hit the 40-point plateau twice in five games, the 97th and 98th time he's done that - has allowed him to almost catch Iverson.

In fact, with 31 points on November 3rd against the Thunder and 41 on the 4th in Houston, Bryant (23,986) moved within 26 points of A.I. (24,012) for 16th on the NBA’s all-time scoring list. Bryant had climbed to 17th on the list with his first two free throws on April 10th at Portland last season, passing Charles Barkley (23,757). Last season, Bryant also passed Robert Parish (23,334), Adrian Dantley, Elgin Baylor (23,149), Clyde Drexler (22,195), Gary Payton (21,813) and Larry Bird (21,791). Next on the NBA’s all-time list ahead of Bryant and Iverson are Patrick Ewing (24,815) and West (25,192).

Traditionally, this would be the sort of thing Bryant cares little to nothing about. After all, he seems to measure his worth in championships, not scoring titles.

Yet for fans of basketball, watching two of the world's greatest all-time scorers match up once again on Friday night at STAPLES Center will be a treat, whether Bryant passes his draft class mate on the charts or not.

Link here

[Rene]

Originally Posted by SinLes12

a player that plays 36 minutes has more responsibilities than a player that plays 28 minutes... that logic is pretty simple too. He led the league at the 2gaurd position in rebounds per game now thats the plain truth.

.................. never said Kobe isn't the "best player." He's just not the best rebounder, he's okay for a 2-guard, if you think grabbing 5 boards in 36 minutes is better than a player that grabs 4 boards in 28 minutes then your logic is very skewed.

Like when you said Kobe is an elite defender??? No one gives a rat's *** that Kobe has responsibilities on offense, it's the best defender, not the best offense-defense combo player.

Kobe = NOT the best rebounding SG, not even top 10.

Simple as that.

I don't care if Kobe scores 100, if you say he's the best SG rebounder then something is wrong.

Simple logic, my friend.

Also, since you're almost always defending Kobe, explain to me why his job to grab 5 in 36 minutes is more difficult than a player who grabs 4 in 28 minutes, player B has it harder, not Kobe.

[kobe8ryant24]

kobe is rebounding the ball very well, i don't see why you guys are arguing about him being the best guard rebounder or not...just be happy he's doing a great job at it...

[Rene]

Ron Artest Clutch Three Pointer And Timeout Signal (HD):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/y9nxn0

Ron Artest Clutch Three Pointer And Timeout Signal (SD):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ag5ggf

Ron Artest Clutch Three Pointer And Timeout Signal (YouTube) (HD):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfLEBX0SEns

Kobe Clutch And 1 Jumper In Overtime (HD):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/pj6p1t

Kobe Clutch And 1 Jumper In Overtime (SD):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/rcoxms

Kobe Clutch And 1 Jumper In Overtime (YouTube) (HD):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGy7RX9LZAI

Kobe Highlights (HD):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=W3HVRA1E

Kobe Highlights (SD):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/i3uoz5

Kobe Highlights (YouTube) (HD):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1ZEJc29-8Y

1st Half Highlights (HD):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0NOV4FCJ

1st Half Highlights (SD):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/m87qwy

1st Half Highlights (YouTube) (HD):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niO-gtWtWqY

2nd Half Highlights (HD):
uploading

2nd Half Highlights (SD):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/hj9nfv

2nd Half Highlights (YouTube) (HD):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDOAQCwbllI

[J-H!zZl3]

Originally Posted by Rene

Ron Artest Clutch Three Pointer And Timeout Signal (HD):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/y9nxn0

Ron Artest Clutch Three Pointer And Timeout Signal (SD):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ag5ggf

Ron Artest Clutch Three Pointer And Timeout Signal (YouTube) (HD):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfLEBX0SEns

Kobe Clutch And 1 Jumper In Overtime (HD):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/pj6p1t

Kobe Clutch And 1 Jumper In Overtime (SD):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/rcoxms

Kobe Clutch And 1 Jumper In Overtime (YouTube) (HD):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGy7RX9LZAI

Kobe Highlights (HD):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=W3HVRA1E

Kobe Highlights (SD):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/i3uoz5

Kobe Highlights (YouTube) (HD):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1ZEJc29-8Y

1st Half Highlights (HD):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0NOV4FCJ

1st Half Highlights (SD):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/m87qwy

1st Half Highlights (YouTube) (HD):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niO-gtWtWqY

2nd Half Highlights (HD):
uploading

2nd Half Highlights (SD):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/hj9nfv

2nd Half Highlights (YouTube) (HD):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDOAQCwbllI

Originally Posted by J-H!zZl3

Ron Artest Clutch Three Pointer And Timeout Signal (HD)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfLEB...ayer_embedded#

Kobe Clutch And 1 Jumper In Overtime (HD)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGy7RX9LZAI

Originally Posted by J-H!zZl3

Kobe Highlights (HD)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1ZEJc29-8Y

1st Half Highlights (HD)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niO-gtWtWqY

2nd Half Highlights (HD)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDOAQCwbllI

[TREYXMAC]

Dam Rene you changed your status, i feel like a lame now.....

[J-H!zZl3]

Kobe's post game against the Grizz was just a thing of beauty. It was almost as if the Grizz refused to double Kobe. OJ got raped by Kobe in every way...lol. He is by far the best post player guard in the league. He should definitely look to get more shots in the paint, and back down his opponents. He is pretty much unstoppable when he plays this way.